Really! Do Pastors think we the members are that bad?

I'm listening to the pastors conference online From the Southern Baptist Convention today. I heard one Dr. ..... say that "those Christian church members are just full of the Devil". Really? How is that possible? Do Pastors think that their members are really nothing more than demons in a Christian body? Do they think that low of us or do they think that high of themselves? You pastors have it so hard. Come walk a month in my shoes. 10 hour days, lawn and Auto repairs, ball practice, budgets..... After the 10 hour work, and then say we "are just full of the Devil". Maybe you should cancel the rest of your club "SBC convention", go home and humbly serve your Devil filled church members. Allen

T4G vs Traditional

Together 4 the Gospel (T4G) and Traditional

It looks like this discussion started out lopsided.  We have a group putting out a document to affirm their beliefs, just putting it out there, after a coming together "conference about various topics".  It is a formal statement about salvation.  There were no other documents about other topics at this conference with signatures.  This leads me to believe that this T4G document was the main thrust of this conference.  I also notice that only 4 signed this document. There were 27 invited speakers so I will assume that there really should be at least 27 signatures attached to it.  Maybe they (the 27) did not expect much to be made of their conference in regard to this document; They could fly under radar.  This document states a fairly firm stand on T-U-L-I-P.
T4G Here ----Calvinist Document
The BP news reports a counter to that T4G document  called "Traditional"
Traditional  Here -----Traditional Document
These have taken the T4G document head on.  Signatures and comments open.
Lest you think "what is all the rub about?" consider what is being taught in Christian schools, SS classes, small groups that the members at large do not know anything about.  I am seeing this first hand.  Our church is "Traditional", our school adheres to T4G document; our SS has as it's foundation T4G.  The rank and file and some on staff have no clue of this basis.

I am glad that the discussion is now brought to the surface.  I despise the sneaking in like this.  I have seen it with "Transitioning your Church" back around 2004.  This was snuck in before the membership even knew it happened.  Now, the Hyper-Calvinist are doing the same.  Wake up Church!!

This new Calvinism will be the Religious law of Christianity and the SBC.






So, Where do we go from here?

Allen